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The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

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Why Are We Still Driving?

30 Apr 2026
57m
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Self-driving cars promise a future of significantly safer roads by eliminating human error, which currently accounts for the vast majority of the 40,000 annual traffic fatalities in the United States. Andrew Miller, author of The End of Driving, argues that the transition to robo-taxi fleets will unlock massive amounts...

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A Bitcoin Evangelist Tries to Convert Me

23 Apr 2026
1h 5m
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Bitcoin functions as a digital savings account that offers protection against the inflationary nature of fiat currencies. Unlike traditional assets, Bitcoin’s fixed supply of 21 million units provides a hedge against both inflationary and deflationary economic pressures. While critics point to its price volatility, pro...

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How the Supreme Court Defeated Trump

16 Apr 2026
59m
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Ben Sasse on How to Live While Dying

09 Apr 2026
1h 7m
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Can We Trust the New Testament?

02 Apr 2026
1h 24m
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How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?

26 Mar 2026
51m
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White Identity Is Galvanizing the Right

19 Mar 2026
1h 2m
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The Democrats Could Still Screw This Up

12 Mar 2026
1h 6m
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Does the Iran War Put America First?

05 Mar 2026
58m
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The conversation centers on the divergence of Donald Trump's second term foreign policy from his initial "America First" platform, specifically regarding the war with Iran. Curt Mills, executive director of the American Conservative, suggests Trump's impatience and agreeable nature led to the adoption of a more hawkish...

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The New Space Race

26 Feb 2026
57m
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The Future Is Indian

19 Feb 2026
45m
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Anthropic's Chief on A.I.: ‘We Don’t Know if the Models Are Conscious’

12 Feb 2026
1h 2m
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The podcast explores the potential promises and perils of artificial intelligence with Dario Amodei, the head of Anthropic. Amodei envisions AI's transformative impact on healthcare, potentially curing diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's, and its capacity to boost global GDP growth. He also considers AI's role in prom...

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Why Ending Roe Wasn’t Enough for the Pro-Life Movement

05 Feb 2026
1h 1m
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‘Trump Has Lost the Country’

04 Feb 2026
3m
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A Plan to Restore Trust in Science From a ‘Fringe Epidemiologist’

29 Jan 2026
1h 4m
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The podcast explores the collapse of public trust in the medical establishment, particularly in light of the COVID-19 pandemic, and possible paths to rebuilding that trust. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, now in charge of the NIH, argues that public health authorities erred by presenting certainty where deep uncertainty existed,...

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Jamelle Bouie and I Debate Trump’s Failing Grade

25 Jan 2026
40m
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The discussion centers on evaluating President Trump's second term, particularly his unilateralist approach to executive power and its long-term implications. Key points include Trump's expansion of presidential power reminiscent of Franklin Roosevelt, contrasted with a lack of legislative instantiation, creating uncer...

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No, Young Men Are Not Returning to Church

22 Jan 2026
1h 0m
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American religion's current state and potential future are examined, questioning claims of religious revival. Ryan Burge, a minister and data analyst, provides insights, noting the rise of the "nones"—those with no religious affiliation—which has plateaued at around 30% of the population. Despite commentary suggesting ...

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Minneapolis Feels ‘Like Being in a Civil War’

16 Jan 2026
47m
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A Defense of U.S. Intervention in Venezuela

07 Jan 2026
53m
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The conversation centers on the complexities of achieving regime change in Venezuela, questioning the current U.S. approach and its potential outcomes. Elliott Abrams, a veteran of U.S. foreign policy under three Republican presidents, argues for a more robust strategy that supports democratic forces and fosters negoti...

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‘Making Sense With Sam Harris’ and Ross Douthat

01 Jan 2026
1h 47m
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