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REWORK

A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.

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Titles, tenure, and paths don't matter

13 Aug 2025
25m
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In this episode of the REWORK podcast, Kimberly Rhodes, Jason Fried, and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss 37signals' hiring processes, emphasizing the importance of evaluating candidates based on their actual work rather than titles, tenure, or CV credentials. They share insights from recent designer and programmer hir...

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BONUS EPISODE: 37signals is moving to Omarchy

08 Aug 2025
35m
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In this episode of the REWORK podcast, Kimberly Rhodes and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss David's transition from Apple products to Linux and his new project, Omarchy, which aims to create an ideal development environment using Arch Linux and Hyperland. David shares his experiences with Linux distributions, detailing...

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Software as art

06 Aug 2025
23m
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In this episode of the REWORK podcast, co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, address a customer's question about approaching software development as art that changes user perspectives, rather than just solving problems. David and Jason discuss how they instill a point of view into their so...

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Balancing it all

30 Jul 2025
29m
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In this episode of the REWORK podcast, Kimberly Rhodes, Jason Fried, and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the balance between personal well-being and business health, addressing a listener's question about managing work, sleep, hobbies, and fitness. They explore the idea that while unhealthy individuals can run success...

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Managing chaos, feature bloat, and other listener questions

18 Jun 2025
22m
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In this episode of the REWORK podcast, Kimberly Rhodes, Jason Fried, and David Heinemeier Hansson address questions from listeners about managing order and chaos in the workplace, the applicability of the ShapeUp methodology outside of software development, and the problem of feature bloat in software products. They di...

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Building in Public

11 Jun 2025
20m
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In this episode of the REWORK podcast, Kimberly Rhodes and Jason Fried discuss the practice of building products in public, focusing on Jason's approach with their new product, Fizzy. They explore the history of 37signals' transparency, dating back to Basecamp's early days, and how it has evolved into sharing work-in-p...

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The case for cover lettters

04 Jun 2025
21m
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Kimberly Rhodes and Jason Fried discuss the importance of cover letters in the hiring process at 37signals. Jason emphasizes that cover letters are the first thing they look at, viewing them as a personal introduction and a demonstration of an applicant's writing ability and genuine interest in the specific job. They a...

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Ignoring the competition, the next wave of CEOs & other listener questions

28 May 2025
24m
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In this episode of the REWORK podcast, Kimberly Rhodes, Jason Fried, and David Heinemeier Hansson answer listener questions submitted via video. The first question addresses whether the advice to ignore competitors still holds true in the age of AI, to which David and Jason affirm the importance of focusing on customer...

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By the Numbers

21 May 2025
22m
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In this episode of the REWORK podcast, Kimberly Rhodes, Jason Fried, and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss the role of analytics in their business, 37signals. They reflect on their experience with full-time data analysts, explaining why they moved away from that model. They share insights on the limitations of data anal...

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Rapid Fire Questions with Jason and David

14 May 2025
21m
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This episode explores rapid-fire questions with 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, covering topics from essential software to underrated founder skills and changes in business philosophy. Jason Fried highlights ScreenStudio as indispensable screencasting software due to its balance of power...

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Eat your own dog food

23 Apr 2025
21m
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This episode explores the practice of "dogfooding" in software development, where a company uses its own product internally before releasing it to customers. The discussion centers on the reasons behind this practice, highlighting its value in identifying areas for improvement and guiding future development. More sig...

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Picking Priorities

16 Apr 2025
11m
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This episode explores the challenges small businesses face in prioritizing tasks and choosing what to work on first. Against the backdrop of 37signals' experience juggling multiple projects, including a new ShapeUp version, the co-founders discuss their approach to prioritizing tasks. More significantly, they advocat...

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Building On the Side

09 Apr 2025
19m
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This episode explores the challenges and opportunities for experienced designers in the tech job market who are considering building a consulting business while developing side products. Against the backdrop of a listener's question about balancing income generation with product development, the hosts discuss the curr...

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Why we choose profit

02 Apr 2025
21m
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This episode explores the strategic choice of prioritizing profitability in a business, specifically within the context of a long-standing, privately held company. Against the backdrop of common entrepreneurial advice to constantly reinvest profits, the co-founders of 37signals argue for a different approach. More sig...

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Build a Business That Runs Without You

26 Mar 2025
29m
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This episode explores the challenges entrepreneurs face in creating sustainable businesses versus simply generating jobs for themselves. Against the backdrop of Kimberly Rhodes's personal experience of creating a self-sustaining job rather than a company, the discussion pivots to Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hanss...

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Increasing Capacity

19 Mar 2025
26m
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This REWORK podcast episode discusses 37signals' approach to increasing capacity without significantly expanding its team. The hosts trace their evolution from a single-product company to managing multiple products simultaneously, emphasizing the importance of team composition and a balanced approach to growth. They ...

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Roles at the company, staying involved as a founder & other listener questions

12 Mar 2025
33m
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This REWORK podcast episode answers listener questions about 37signals' business structure and practices. The hosts discuss the company's unconventional approach, lacking roles like dedicated managers, salespeople, and in-house legal, while highlighting the benefits of empowering employees with broader skill sets. Th...

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Bringing Back Free

05 Mar 2025
21m
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This REWORK podcast episode discusses 37signals' decision to reintroduce a free plan for Basecamp, after previously removing it. The hosts debate the costs and benefits of offering a free version, weighing increased user exposure against potential loss of revenue from paid subscriptions. They highlight a successful M...

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Managing vs. Mentoring

12 Feb 2025
24m
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This REWORK podcast episode explores 37signals' approach to team management, contrasting traditional management with a mentorship model. The interview with long-time employee Jeffrey Hardy details the company's evolution from a small team with no managers to a larger organization that experimented with, then abandoned...

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Blogging Isn't Dead

05 Feb 2025
14m
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This REWORK podcast episode interviews Jorge Manrubia, a principal programmer at 37signals, about their developer blog. The discussion covers the blog's history, its relaxed contribution process (anyone can write, focusing on authenticity over quantity), and its benefits for both the company and individual contributor...

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