This episode explores the identification and cultivation of exceptional talent, and the subsequent building of enduring institutions. Against the backdrop of Michael Ovitz's extensive career, the discussion delves into his unique approach to spotting talent early, exemplified by his involvement with individuals like Alex Karp of Palantir and Glenn Lowry of MoMA. More significantly, Ovitz emphasizes the importance of a "pilot's checklist" for evaluating talent, focusing on visceral connections, intellectual curiosity, and a relentless drive. For instance, his involvement with the turnaround of Gulfstream illustrates his strategy of assembling a high-powered board focused on sales rather than traditional financial expertise. As the discussion pivoted to institution-building, Ovitz highlights the importance of momentum, exemplified by his daily fundraising meetings and the relentless "what's next" mentality of individuals like Steve Schwarzman. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the critical role of confidence, a willingness to embrace failure, and the cultivation of a strong team in achieving sustained success, offering valuable insights into leadership, talent acquisition, and the dynamics of building lasting institutions.