This Modern Love podcast episode features an interview with Kelsey McKinney, author of "You Didn't Hear This From Me," discussing her perspective on gossip. The conversation begins with a definition of gossip, moving into a discussion of its role in relationships and McKinney's personal experiences with gossip, shaped by her religious upbringing. The interview includes a reading and discussion of a Modern Love essay about a woman who uses gossip to assess a marriage proposal, highlighting the complexities of navigating personal relationships and the ethical considerations surrounding the sharing of information. The episode concludes with reflections on the essay's themes and the potential benefits and harms of gossip. A key takeaway is McKinney's nuanced view of gossip, challenging the simplistic notion of it being inherently good or bad.