This episode of the Rethinking podcast features an interview with Allison Sweet Grant, Adam Grant's wife, about her debut novel, "I Am the Cage." The conversation covers the inspiration behind the novel—Allison's experience with a childhood limb discrepancy and subsequent surgery—and explores themes of identity, shame, and agency. Specific examples from the book, like the "junk drawer" metaphor for hidden emotions and the distinction between "deprivation" and "oppression" suffocation, are discussed. The interview also delves into parenting lessons learned from Allison's experience, emphasizing honesty with children about pain and the importance of recognizing kindness alongside achievement. Listeners gain insights into the writing process and the emotional journey of both the author and her main character.