In this podcast, Lex Fridman engages in a deep conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy about the ongoing war and the search for peace. Fridman highlights the difficulties of navigating multilingual discussions, noting how subtle meanings can be lost in translation. Zelenskyy shares his efforts to negotiate ceasefires with Putin, stressing the necessity of robust security guarantees for Ukraine, including the possibility of NATO membership, before any lasting peace can be achieved. He underscores the importance of maintaining a strong Ukrainian stance, with backing from the US and Europe, to compel Putin to genuinely end hostilities rather than counting on his willingness to negotiate. This conversation not only sheds light on the human toll of conflict but also reveals the intricate dynamics of international diplomacy.