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Trump vs. the U.S. Economy

16 Aug 2025
1h 23m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra interviews Natasha Sarin, an economist and law professor, about the state of the U.S. economy under the Trump administration's trade policies. They discuss the impact of tariffs on inflation, economic growth, and the job market, as well as the potential for AI to offset some...

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When Is It Genocide?

13 Aug 2025
1h 42m
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Ezra Klein interviews Philippe Sands, a lawyer specializing in genocide cases, to discuss the legal and cultural implications of the term "genocide," particularly in the context of the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They delve into the history of the concept, focusing on Raphael Lemkin's work in defining genocid...

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Mahmoud Khalil Tells His Story

05 Aug 2025
1h 22m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra interviews Mahmoud Khalil, a Palestinian graduate student and activist who was detained by ICE under the Trump administration for allegedly posing a foreign policy threat due to his anti-Israel speech. Khalil recounts his background as a Palestinian refugee from Syria, his i...

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Behind Trump and Vance Is This Man’s Movement

01 Aug 2025
1h 18m
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Ezra Klein interviews Yoram Hazony, an Israeli political theorist and author of "The Virtue of Nationalism," to discuss the concepts of families, tribes, and nations, and how they relate to national identity and political order. Hazony argues that nations are built on mutual loyalty and shared characteristics like lang...

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Best Of: Barbara Kingsolver on ‘Urban-Rural Antipathy’

29 Jul 2025
1h 1m
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This episode of the Ezra Klein Show features an interview with Barbara Kingsolver, the author of "Demon Copperhead," which won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction. The conversation explores Kingsolver's Appalachian roots, her experiences growing up in Kentucky and living abroad, and the inspiration behind her novel. Kingsol...

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Is Decarbonization Dead?

25 Jul 2025
1h 17m
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Ezra Klein interviews Jesse Jenkins and Jane Flegal about the impact of recent political developments, specifically a new bill, on climate policy and clean energy initiatives in the United States. They discuss the Inflation Reduction Act's original goals, the progress made in renewable energy sectors like solar and ele...

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Why American Jews No Longer Understand One Another

23 Jul 2025
23m
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The podcast delves into the fracturing consensus within American Jewry regarding Israel, Zionism, and antisemitism, highlighting the generational divide and differing perspectives on Israel's actions and its impact on Jewish identity and safety. It examines the rise of anti-Zionism, particularly among younger Jews, and...

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Why Trump Can’t Shake Jeffrey Epstein

17 Jul 2025
1h 9m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra interviews Will Sommer, an expert in tracking conspiracies, about the rise of QAnon and the Epstein conspiracy theories within the MAGA movement. They discuss the core beliefs of QAnon, its appeal to Trump supporters, and how it merged with the Jeffrey Epstein case after Eps...

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Why Does My Mind Keep Thinking That?

11 Jul 2025
1h 7m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra interviews Mark Epstein, a Buddhist and psychotherapist, about the nature of thoughts, the self, and the intersection of Buddhist philosophy and Freudian psychotherapy. They discuss the role of meditation in understanding the mind, the value and limitations of Freudian theor...

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How the Attention Economy Is Devouring Gen Z — and the Rest of Us

08 Jul 2025
1h 5m
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Ezra Klein interviews Kyla Scanlon about the economics of attention, particularly as it relates to Gen Z. Scanlon discusses the lack of predictable progress felt by young people, leading to worry and nihilism, and introduces her "barbell theory" of Gen Z's economic responses: tool belt pragmatism versus meme coin specu...

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The Disaster That Just Passed the Senate

02 Jul 2025
1h 11m
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Ezra Klein interviews Matt Yglesias about the Republican's "big, beautiful" bill, which includes trillions of dollars in tax cuts primarily benefiting the wealthy, offset by cuts to Medicaid, nutrition assistance, and clean energy programs. They discuss the unpopularity of the bill, particularly the Medicaid cuts and w...

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Mamdani, Trump and the End of the Old Politics

28 Jun 2025
1h 24m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra Klein interviews Chris Hayes about the recent New York Democratic primary, focusing on Zohran Mamdani's victory over Andrew Cuomo. They analyze Mamdani's innovative use of viral videos and social media to gain attention, contrasting it with Cuomo's traditional, money-driven ...

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A New Middle East?

25 Jun 2025
48m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra interviews Aaron David Miller, a Middle East expert, to discuss the recent events involving Israel, Iran, and the United States. They delve into Israel's increased military dominance, the potential long-term consequences of President Trump's decisions regarding Iran's nuclea...

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Is This America’s Golden Age? A Debate.

20 Jun 2025
1h 42m
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This podcast episode features a Munk Debate centered on the resolution: "This is America's Golden Age." The debate includes opening statements, rebuttals, and moderated discussions among four participants: Kevin Roberts and Kellyanne Conway, arguing in favor of the motion, and Ezra Klein and Ben Rhodes, arguing against...

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Sarah McBride on Why the Left Lost on Trans Rights

17 Jun 2025
1h 35m
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Ezra Klein interviews Congresswoman Sarah McBride about the regression of public opinion on trans rights and the broader implications for political strategy. McBride attributes the decline in support to a false sense of security after the marriage equality victory, a well-funded effort to demonize trans people, and the...

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Ehud Olmert on Israel's Catastrophic War in Gaza

11 Jun 2025
1h 13m
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This New York Times podcast features an interview between Ezra Klein and Ehud Olmert, former Prime Minister of Israel, focusing on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the current state of affairs in Gaza and the West Bank. Olmert expresses his evolving views on the conflict, criticizing Israel's actions in Gaza as exc...

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Best Of: Salman Rushdie Is Not Who You Think He Is

06 Jun 2025
1h 0m
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This podcast episode features Ezra Klein interviewing Salman Rushdie about his book, "Knife," which details the attack he survived and its impact on his life. Rushdie discusses the concept of shadow selves, the fatwa against him following "The Satanic Verses," and the subsequent attempts on his life and those of his tr...

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The Emergent Trump Doctrine

03 Jun 2025
1h 4m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra interviews Emma Ashford, a foreign policy analyst, to discuss Donald Trump's evolving foreign policy in his second administration. They analyze Trump's "America First" approach, its blend of realpolitik and Trumpian idiosyncrasies, and how U.S. interests are defined within t...

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Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

30 May 2025
1h 6m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra interviews Kathryn Schulz, a writer at The New Yorker, about her book "Lost & Found," which explores themes of loss, love, and connection. They delve into Schulz's personal experiences, including the death of her father and finding love with her partner, and how these events...

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The Growing Scandal of $TRUMP

28 May 2025
1h 3m
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Ezra Klein interviews Zeke Faux about the Trump family's involvement in cryptocurrency. They discuss Trump's initial skepticism towards crypto, his later embrace of NFTs and meme coins, and the launch of World Liberty Financial, a crypto venture involving his sons. Faux details the controversial figures behind World Li...

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