30 May 2025
1h 6m

Our Lives Are an Endless Series of 'And'

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The Ezra Klein Show

In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, Ezra interviews Kathryn Schulz, a writer at The New Yorker, about her book "Lost & Found," which explores themes of loss, love, and connection. They delve into Schulz's personal experiences, including the death of her father and finding love with her partner, and how these events shaped her perspective on life's fragility and beauty. The conversation touches on balancing attention between personal joys and global suffering, the nature of happiness, and the importance of duty and connection in finding meaning. Schulz shares insights into her writing process and reflects on how her understanding of loss and finding has evolved, particularly after becoming a parent.

Outlines

Part 1: Introduction to Loss and Life

Part 2: Attention, Meaning, and Happiness

Part 3: Connectivity and Recommendations

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