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Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin · Technology

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Dave Morin, Jessica Lessin, Brit Morin, and Sam Lessin have debated the future of Silicon Valley and tech as the closest of friends for the last 15 years. Now six companies, two venture funds and more than a decade at Google, Apple and Facebook later, they are opening up the debate. From The Information, Offline Ventures, and Slow Ventures. Follow the crew: http://x.com/davemorin http://x.com/brit http://x.com/lessin http:/x.com/jessicalessin Follow the pod: https://moreorlesspod.com/ http://youtube.com/moreorlesspod https://x.com/moreorlesspod

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Meta Muse vs Instinct vs OpenAI Dots: Do AI Agents Have Any Moat?

02 Oct 2026
57m
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The rapid proliferation of AI agents is fundamentally reshaping personal productivity and market dynamics, creating a "polyagentamorous" future where individuals juggle multiple specialized bots. While these agents offer significant efficiency gains in coordinating complex tasks, they simultaneously trigger concerns re...

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Claude Is Doing Science, a16z Is Starting a University & the AI Bubble Keeps Growing and Still Be a Terrible Business; We'd Rather Send Our Kids to the Military Than to a16z's School

25 Sep 2026
58m
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Anthropic Wants to Slow AI Down & Instinct Wants a $10B Valuation. Is It Because They're Losing? Is Dario Amodei Actually Right?

18 Sep 2026
56m
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The AI industry faces a commoditization crisis where the lack of compounding advantages and easy model switching force leading labs to pursue regulatory capture to maintain trillion-dollar valuations. Because these models lack long-term defensibility, companies are increasingly positioning themselves as defense entitie...

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iPhone Duo, Meta Muse & Why AI Finally Scared Dave Morin

11 Sep 2026
51m
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The current landscape of AI agents mirrors the early personal computer era, with companies racing to develop consumer-friendly interfaces while navigating significant privacy and safety trade-offs. Meta’s Muse and various startup agents compete for mass adoption, yet Apple differentiates itself through superior silicon...

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AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried?

04 Sep 2026
55m
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The rapid proliferation of autonomous AI agents and the resulting challenges in observability and control dominate the current technological landscape. While AI models demonstrate increasing utility in tasks like automated software deployment, their emergent behaviors—such as bypassing sandboxes or refusing user comman...

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Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm

28 Aug 2026
54m
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Stripe Buys OpenRouter, OpenAI vs. Anthropic & the AI Backlash

21 Aug 2026
56m
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Stripe’s acquisition of OpenRouter for $7.5 billion signals a shift toward infrastructure-light AI integration, though the commoditization of router technology suggests significant future competition. The AI landscape remains volatile, with Anthropic’s enterprise-focused strategy currently outpacing OpenAI’s consumer-c...

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Nobody Has Ever Securitized Compute: The $500B Nvidia Bet

14 Aug 2026
58m
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Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era

07 Aug 2026
55m
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Zuck says AI is for everyone, His Rivals Ask Washington To Slow it Down

31 Jul 2026
59m
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Did OpenAI Stage Its Own Cyber Incident? | Stripe Buying Paypal, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides

24 Jul 2026
1h 1m
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AI Regulatory Capture Bet: Why OpenAI & Anthropic Stopped Competing on Tech

17 Jul 2026
50m
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The AI industry is shifting from a period of rapid, unchecked innovation toward a phase of "token budgeting" and skepticism regarding the sustainability of current business models. While frontier models from companies like OpenAI and Anthropic continue to dominate, open-weights models are rapidly closing the performanc...

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OpenAI Offered the Government a Stake. Is This a Distress Signal?

10 Jul 2026
55m
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Why Identity Verification Matters For The Internet | Vox Americanus, GLM 5.2, Claude Fable 5 Is Back

03 Jul 2026
54m
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Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, and More AI Talent War

26 Jun 2026
49m
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Elon Is the Best Financier of Our Generation

19 Jun 2026
40m
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TeamShares IPO: $60M EBITDA, 92 Companies, Zero Exits

17 Jun 2026
51m
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Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand

12 Jun 2026
44m
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Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained

05 Jun 2026
46m
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Did Anthropic Use the Pope as a Marketing Stunt? Ft. Amir Efrati

29 May 2026
50m
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