Physical AI is moving quickly.

But Andrew Barry says one of the biggest unlocks in robotics is not just getting robots to move through the world. It is getting them to touch, grasp, adjust, and manipulate the world with real dexterity.

In this episode of Automated, Brian Heater speaks with Andrew Barry, co-founder and CTO of Generalist, about how the company is building general intelligence for the physical world and why dexterous robots may be the starting point for far more capable automation.

Andrew explains why Generalist is focused on the tasks that are both difficult and valuable. Robots have made major progress in mobility, but their ability to manipulate objects is still limited. If robots can solve dexterity, they can become useful in a much wider range of real-world environments.

The conversation explores how Generalist is collecting massive amounts of real-world manipulation data. Andrew describes the handheld data capture devices the company built, why they chose that approach over teleoperation, and how thousands of devices have helped them scale a much richer data set for robot learning.

Brian and Andrew also discuss the commercial side of physical AI. Andrew explains why the company is not just chasing impressive demos, but benchmarking against real tasks people are already paying for today. That distinction matters because a viral robot demo is not the same thing as a deployable robotic system.

They also dig into one of the most surprising parts of modern robot learning: improvisation. Andrew shares the moment when a robot picked up a baggie with the opposite hand from the one it had been trained on, completed the task anyway, and left the team realizing something very different was happening inside the model.

The episode also covers Generalist’s GEN-1 model, the parallels between robotics and the early GPT era, why flexible objects like cables are so difficult to automate, what data flywheels may actually look like in robotics, and why robots sometimes learn human mistakes from the data they are trained on.

Finally, Andrew reflects on his path from Boston Dynamics to the Broad Institute and then to Generalist, explaining how work in molecular biology, machine learning, transformers, and robotics all shaped the way he thinks about building intelligence for the physical world.