Bloody hell… this one smacked me right in the chops.

Stephen Jenkinson (my favourite guest, just quietly) is back on the show and this conversation was nothing like the others… and somehow also exactly like the others. We talked about Parkinson’s, terror, identity, regret, suffering, joy, and what happens when the bloke who helps people understand death and life gets blindsided by his own brutal reality.

There were moments in this chat where I genuinely forgot to breathe. Stephen spoke about the collapse of certainty, the illusion of control, the strange grief of losing parts of yourself while still being alive… and whether we’re actually supposed to remain the same person forever.

We got into regret, awe, suffering, old wounds, childhood survival, dancing with trembling hands, and the active pursuit of joy. Not happiness. Not comfort... Joy.

This isn’t a neat conversation with tidy answers. It’s raw, confronting, beautiful, deeply human… and as it always is with Stephen, it's honestly one of the most important chats I’ve had.

Enjoy, legends.

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