Bill Kristol: What Does 'They' Mean?

In this episode of The Bulwark Podcast, Tim Miller and Bill Kristol discuss the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination attempt, focusing on the polarized reactions and the weaponization of the tragedy by political figures. They critique the responses from both the right and some on the left, emphasizing the dangers of dehumanizing political foes and the rise of illiberal sentiments. The conversation also covers Trump's foreign policy, particularly his relationship with China and Russia, and the broader implications for American leadership on the global stage. Additionally, they touch on the importance of community organizing and intellectual efforts to rejuvenate liberalism in response to the growing far-right movements.