David Frum: Leveraging Violence as a Tool of Power

In this episode of The Bulwark Podcast, Tim Miller interviews David Frum, beginning with a discussion of Russia's drone incursion into Poland and Trump's response, which leads to a broader analysis of Trump's political alignment with far-right parties in Europe, particularly in Poland. They explore the implications of Trump's potential return to power on NATO and European security, as well as his approach to China. The conversation shifts to the political violence, specifically the assassination of Charlie Kirk, emphasizing the importance of condemning political violence regardless of the victim's views, and they also discuss the potential for Trump to exploit the situation to suppress political opposition. They also touch on the recent killing of a police officer at the CDC, economic issues such as tariffs and job growth, and international relations, including South Korea's reaction to a U.S. raid and the ongoing conflict in Israel.