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In this episode of the DTC Podcast, we sit down with Drew Marconi, Co-founder and CEO of Intelligems, to dig into the real way brands should be thinking about testing in 2025.

Forget just optimizing for conversion rate or AOV. The smartest brands are now optimizing every site change—pricing, shipping, offers, content—for one thing: profit per visitor.

Drew shares how Intelligems helps brands move beyond surface-level CRO and into truly strategic decision-making by treating pricing, shipping, and discounts as testable business levers.

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Key Insights:

Why profit per visitor is more than conversion rate or revenue
It’s the only metric that balances AOV, margin, and conversion—and captures true business impact.
What most brands get wrong about pricing
Many haven't touched prices in years or are afraid to test them. Drew explains how to approach price testing without backlash.
The roadmap to build a culture of experimentation
From VP-level buy-in to weekly testing meetings, learn how the best teams are structured for consistent optimization.
How to test pricing, offers, and shipping intelligently
Get the real-world tactics behind straddle tests, dynamic discounts, and testing offer mechanisms.
Agentic AI is coming to testing
Drew breaks down how automated agents will soon handle ideation, test execution, analysis, and rollout—without human bottlenecks.

If you’re still optimizing for revenue or conversion alone, this episode will change how you think about growth. It’s not just about what wins the test—it’s about what drives profit.

Timestamps

00:00 – The state of A/B testing and pricing strategies

02:15 – Drew’s journey from McKinsey to founding Intelligems

04:30 – Why pricing needs to be broader than just the list price

07:10 – Dynamic pricing fears and consumer perception

09:20 – Building effective testing roadmaps for DTC brands

12:05 – Running price elasticity tests for better profit per visitor

14:30 – Personalization strategies based on traffic sources

16:45 – Optimizing Black Friday & holiday offers through testing

19:30 – Creating a culture of experimentation inside your brand

22:40 – How high-performing teams structure ongoing testing cycles

25:10 – Statistical significance, confidence intervals & testing duration

28:20 – Measuring profit per visitor vs. focusing on conversion rate

30:15 – The agentic AI future of A/B testing & infinite experimentation

Hashtags

#ABTesting #PricingStrategy #EcommerceGrowth #DTCBrands #ConversionOptimization #Personalization #ProfitPerVisitor #BlackFridayStrategy #AIAutomation #MarketingAnalytics

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Bonus: How to Build a Testing Roadmap That Drives Real Profit—Not Just Revenue with Drew Marconi

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Bonus: How to Build a Testing Roadmap That Drives Real Profit—Not Just Revenue with Drew Marconi