Notion's CEO wants you to demand better from your tools

In this episode of Decoder, Casey Newton interviews Ivan Zhao, the co-founder and CEO of Notion, about his philosophy on productivity and the evolution of Notion. Zhao describes Notion as an all-in-one productivity software and compares it to Lego blocks, emphasizing its customizability and ability to consolidate various tools. He discusses the company's history, its focus on design and craft, and its embrace of AI, including the launch of AI-powered features. Zhao envisions AI agents that will increasingly assist users within Notion, while also addressing the challenges of AI reliability and the need for a different approach to software development in the age of AI. He also touches on Notion's profitability, company size, decision-making processes, and future plans, including the integration of AI to create AI teammates.