Does America have a moral obligation to the world? The former Department of Government Efficiency staffer Jeremy Lewin, now deputy administrator for the United States Agency for International Development, explains how he is implementing President Trump’s foreign aid philosophy and what it means for humanitarian assistance going forward.

01:59 - From the private sector to interviewing with Elon Musk
09:18 - The rapid restructuring of U.S.A.I.D.
19:44 - Lewin’s critiques of U.S.A.I.D.’s focus
25:15 - The most controversial cuts: humanitarian aid
29:50 - America’s interests first, values-based interests second
40:14 - What is the future vision for foreign aid?

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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