This podcast episode explores the complexity of pain and the importance of addressing persistent pain in both yoga teachers and healthcare providers. The conversations highlight the impact of language, fear, emotions, and beliefs on pain experiences. It emphasizes the need for active listening, individualization, and reframing language to promote safety, empowerment, and healing. The episode also emphasizes the value of curiosity, understanding, and partnership in conversations and therapeutic approaches. Overall, the podcast episode emphasizes the importance of adopting effective strategies to address persistent pain and empowering individuals in pain management.