This podcast episode explores Spotify's venture into the podcasting industry and its attempts to generate revenue from this medium. Despite acquiring podcasting studios and signing exclusive deals with celebrity podcasters, Spotify has struggled to monetize podcasting and make it profitable. The episode highlights the challenges faced by Spotify, such as the lack of profitability in music streaming and the need to find alternative sources of income. Additionally, it discusses Spotify's shift towards focusing on its advertising business and providing tools to independent creators in order to make podcasting profitable. Despite the setbacks, Spotify remains committed to the podcasting industry and continues to shape its strategy in search of new avenues of growth.