This podcast episode emphasizes the crucial role of pastoralists and meat consumption in addressing malnutrition and stunting in Africa. While concerns about the environmental impact of meat production exist, the speaker argues that sustainable meat production can be achieved by encouraging pastoralist-friendly policies, such as those implemented in Namibia. The speaker also highlights the importance of data collection to understand pastoralists' challenges and optimize interventions. By investing in data and supporting pastoralists, we can bridge the gap between tradition and modernity, empowering them to sustainably increase milk and meat production and improve the well-being of children in Africa.