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Cheryl and I dig into two critical topics in this episode: when and how to approach the Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) protocol with nuance—especially around binders, environmental remediation and how “clean” is actually clean—and secondly the risks of jumping too fast into Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide (VIP) treatment before other foundational healing steps are in place. Make sure to watch the full interview to learn more.

Cheryl is a lead practitioner at Empower Functional Health, working alongside Judy Cho in a practice that focuses on functional medicine, root‑cause healing of chronic illness, and a meat‑based elimination diet. They bring a holistic and clinical lens to CIRS, environmental sensitivities, and diet/lifestyle interventions. 

We discuss the following:

What CIRS means for Cheryl
Is CIRS just mold or all mold?
How clean is “clean enough”?
Cheryl’s thoughts on different binders
Importance of testing cholesterol
Cheryl’s thoughts on using VIP too early
Pets and nervous system regulation
When it’s beyond CIRS
Cheryl’s thoughts on Actinos

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*DISCLAIMER: This content is for educational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. It should not replace professional medical advice.

357. Real Talk for CIRS: Binders, VIP, MARCoNS, and What Really Matters

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