What the Shutdown Is Really About

Ezra Klein interviews Neera Tanden about the ongoing government shutdown and its implications, particularly concerning healthcare. They discuss the reasons for the shutdown, focusing on disagreements over extending Affordable Care Act tax credits and Medicaid changes. Tanden explains the potential for premium shocks in the insurance marketplace and the disproportionate impact on red states and working-class Americans. They also discuss the political strategies of both Democrats and Republicans, including Trump's tactics and the potential for a deal, while also addressing the broader implications for healthcare policy and the upcoming elections.