In this episode of Grit, Joubin Mirzadegan interviews Ivan Zhao, the co-founder and CEO of Notion, exploring his unique perspective on design, company culture, and the future of knowledge work in the age of AI. Zhao shares his preference for simplicity, his hands-on approach to product aesthetics, and his views on balancing craft with business utility. He discusses Notion's journey, from its early days of searching for product-market fit to its current position as a platform for consolidated knowledge work. Zhao also delves into the transformative potential of AI, emphasizing the importance of context and integration in building intelligent agents that can revolutionize how we work.
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