In this interview, Steven Bartlett and cognitive scientist Professor Donald Hoffman discuss the nature of reality, perception, and consciousness. Hoffman argues that our senses present a user interface, not objective reality, shaped by evolution for survival and reproduction, not truth. He uses the analogy of a virtual reality headset to explain how space-time is a construct, not the fundamental reality. They explore the implications of this view, touching on simulation theory, the meaning of life, the role of suffering, and the potential for future technologies that transcend the limitations of space-time. Hoffman suggests meditation as a means to understand one's true nature beyond the "headset" of perceived reality and advocates for unconditional love as a guiding principle. He also shares his personal experiences with health complications and how it deepened his understanding of these concepts.
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