This podcast episode explores "as if" thinking, a psychological technique where individuals act as if they possess a desired trait or are in a desired state to influence their mood or behavior. The hosts discuss research on this technique, including a study on extroversion and behavioral activation therapy, and offer personal anecdotes illustrating its application. Angela Duckworth provides an example of using this method by emulating Carol Dweck's approach to work. The discussion extends to the placebo effect, highlighting its impact on perception and behavior, with examples ranging from childhood experiences with sugar placebos to the influence of expectations in medical treatments. The episode concludes by emphasizing the potential benefits and limitations of "as if" thinking, cautioning against its misuse in situations requiring genuine problem-solving.