This podcast features Michael Mignano interviewing Mike Krieger, Anthropic's Chief Product Officer and former Instagram co-founder, about his career transition and product strategy at Anthropic. The conversation covers Krieger's reasons for joining Anthropic, the challenges of building AI products alongside constant research innovations (compared to building Instagram), and the unique approach to product strategy and experimentation in the AI space. Krieger highlights the importance of a portfolio approach to product development, balancing model-dependent and independent features, and emphasizes the evolving nature of AI product differentiation, focusing on "vibe" and unique capabilities. He also discusses the impact of AI on advertising-based business models and the future of AI's role in both personal and professional life. The interview concludes with Krieger's vision for Anthropic's future role in shaping a positive impact on society through AI.