This Modern Love podcast episode features an interview with Jacob Hoff and Samantha Greenstone, a married couple where Jacob identifies as gay and Samantha identifies as straight. The interview explores their unique relationship, which they describe as a "soul tie," tracing their journey from initial meeting at a theatrical callback to navigating societal expectations and family acceptance. Jacob's eventual coming out to his father, prompted by a bout of illness, is a pivotal moment highlighting the challenges and ultimate rewards of honesty. The couple emphasizes the importance of open communication and the strength of their bond, which transcends traditional definitions of sexuality. Their story challenges listeners to reconsider conventional notions of love and relationships.