This podcast episode discusses how established leaders can overcome resistance to new ideas and innovation. Andy Stanley and Susie Gray explore the reasons behind this resistance, including pride, insecurity, and the natural human tendency to resist change. They offer practical advice, such as prioritizing curiosity over criticism and actively listening to younger generations and contrarian viewpoints, illustrating these points with anecdotes from their experiences. The hosts emphasize the importance of creating a culture that values learning and experimentation, even if projects fail, to foster innovation and ultimately improve organizational performance. A key takeaway is the need for leaders to self-reflect on their own insecurities and pride before reacting to new ideas.