In this podcast, Adam Grant sits down with Jane Goodall to explore her unique experiences of working remotely during the pandemic, alongside her extensive research on chimpanzee behavior. Goodall draws intriguing connections between the social dynamics of chimpanzees and human leadership, pointing out the key differences between mere dominance and true effective leadership. She emphasizes the vital roles of patience, compassion, and understanding in guiding others. Reflecting on her career, she shares the challenges she faced as a woman in science and discusses her ongoing conservation efforts, advocating for a holistic approach that benefits both humanity and the environment. Goodall also highlights the importance of hope and proactive action in tackling global issues, inspiring listeners to make a meaningful difference in the world.
