This podcast episode explores the journey and future of American progressivism, tracing its beginnings to grassroots movements in the late '80s while emphasizing the vital role of intellectuals in shaping progressive ideas. The conversation contrasts AstroTurf campaigns with genuine grassroots activism, looks back at the ups and downs of progressive efforts, and anticipates a shift toward class-focused issues that resonate with the neglected working class. Ultimately, the episode calls for a revitalized progressive movement aimed at bridging the gap between the educated elite and everyday workers.