This podcast episode explores the world of virtual reality (VR) and augmented reality (AR) through the lens of Mark Rabkin, the VP of virtual reality at Reality Labs inside of Meta. Mark discusses the engineering aspects and excitement of building VR experiences, the introduction of Meta accounts and Horizon profiles in the metaverse, and the shift from a friendship model to a follower model. The conversation also delves into online identity in the metaverse, the potential impact of VR on identity, the current state of VR adoption, and the transformative nature of VR. The speakers debunk myths about VR and emphasize its accessibility and user-friendly nature.