This podcast episode explores the transformative potential of artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML), highlighting the importance of listening to users, iterating quickly, and focusing on user needs to deliver increasing value. It discusses the excitement surrounding generative AI and its impact on the art world, recognizing the role of new tools in driving artistic innovation. The conversation also examines the balance between hype and reality in the AI landscape and emphasizes the significance of finding a balance between exploration and exploitation in AI. Additionally, the episode touches on preserving digital content, the importance of low maintenance infrastructure in gaming, and the challenges and potential of machine learning in virtual reality. The podcast concludes with a discussion on the vision for future VR hardware and the potential crossover between video games and other art forms.