This podcast episode discusses the challenges of introducing market aspects to natural monopolies in the energy sector, explores the transition of the US energy industry from a centralized and regulated system to a pseudo deregulated market, examines the challenges of expanding nuclear power and offshore wind within the existing electricity model, and explores the advantages of returning to a public utility model. It also highlights the significance of public ownership for utilities, using the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) as an example. The episode further delves into the history and transformation of the electricity system and raises concerns about the financialization of the industry and the limitations of market systems in financing renewable energy sources.