This podcast episode delves into the complexities surrounding the transition to renewable energy, emphasizing that reliance on capitalism alone may hinder progress. Brett Christophers, author of "The Price is Wrong," argues that the financial models of solar and wind energy are fraught with uncertainties and low returns, making them unattractive to investors. Through discussions on subsidies, financial institutions, and the role of nuclear power, the episode encapsulates the pressing need for innovative solutions such as market reform, increased public investment, and an acknowledgment of the global disparities affecting decarbonization efforts.