This podcast episode explores the controversial and complex nature of defining UX design in the industry. The lack of universal agreement and standards for UX design poses challenges for newcomers, and there is ongoing effort to define and clarify the concept. UX design is not limited to screens but encompasses all experiences involving human senses and mentality. It requires consideration of psychology, usability, usefulness, and utility to enhance people's lives. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of attention to detail and the integration of multiple elements to create a cohesive user experience. Overall, UX design aims to provide meaningful and satisfying experiences while navigating various divisions and misconceptions in the industry.