This podcast episode explores the challenges and opportunities associated with turnarounds in the fashion retail industry. The speakers discuss the impact of low growth rates, low margins, and high competition. They also highlight the influence of e-commerce, declining mall traffic, and rising costs on profitability. Despite these challenges, the speakers identify key levers, including brand perception, promotion reduction, and e-commerce investment, that can boost profitability. They provide an example of a company that successfully broke free from the cycle of low margins and declining sales. The section also discusses how the turnaround model from fashion retail can be applied to airlines, although there are challenges due to the differences between the industries. Overall, this episode emphasizes the lessons that can be learned from successful retail turnarounds and their applicability to other sectors.