This podcast episode explores the broader applications of AI beyond ChatGPT and chatbots, particularly in industrial settings. It discusses the current landscape of AI, the rise and fall of novelty AI projects, the Moravec paradox in robotics, the differences between open and closed aspects of AI and robotics, the importance of commercialization and challenges faced by scientists, the different types of robot learning, the future of AI in robotics and maintenance, and the potential profitability of AI investments. The episode also touches on the potential for cloud-based labs and expanding context windows in AI, the possibility of rapid development and leapfrogging in robotics, and the challenges and opportunities in robotics development.