This podcast episode delves into the ever-prevalent topic of anxiety and panic attacks, drawing on expert insights from renowned journalist Matt Gutmann and the wealth of personal experiences and scientific knowledge shared by the speakers. They explore anxiety as an intrinsic part of the human experience, highlighting its evolutionary origins and suggesting practical strategies for managing it. The speakers discuss the benefits of mindfulness, exercise, and dietary modifications, while acknowledging the potential utility of psychedelic experiences and substances like nicotine and THC. They emphasize the importance of confronting anxiety head-on, finding what works for each individual, and embracing the broader journey of managing mental well-being in a rapidly evolving world.