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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

Interviews with world-class product leaders and growth experts to uncover concrete, actionable, and tactical advice to help you build, launch, and grow your own product.

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How Block is becoming the most AI-native enterprise in the world | Dhanji R. Prasanna

26 Oct 2025
1h 26m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny interviews Dhanji Prasanna, CTO at Block, about Block's AI-forward approach and its internal open-source agent, Goose. They discuss the productivity gains achieved through AI, with engineering teams reporting significant time savings. Dhanji shares insights on Block's organizat...

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Al Engineering 101 with Chip Huyen (Nvidia, Stanford, Netflix)

23 Oct 2025
1h 22m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Chip Huyen, an AI expert, discusses key aspects of building successful AI products. She differentiates between pre-training and post-training, emphasizing the importance of supervised fine-tuning and reinforcement learning. Chip highlights the significance of talking to users, prepar...

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How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren

19 Oct 2025
1h 7m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, host Lenny Rachitsky interviews Nicole Forsgren, an expert in developer experience (DevEx) and engineering productivity. They discuss how AI is changing the way software development is measured and managed. Forsgren emphasizes that traditional productivity metrics like lines of code ...

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Figma’s CEO: Why AI makes design, craft, and quality the new moat for startups | Dylan Field

16 Oct 2025
1h 26m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny interviews Dylan Field, the CEO and co-founder of Figma, about Figma's journey to IPO after a failed acquisition by Adobe, how Figma maintains a startup pace, Figma's culture, Dylan's leadership style, and Figma Make. Dylan shares insights on keeping teams motivated, maintainin...

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Inside Google's AI turnaround: The rise of AI Mode, strategy behind AI Overviews, and their vision for AI-powered search | Robby Stein (VP of Product, Google Search)

10 Oct 2025
1h 21m
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In this interview podcast, Lenny interviews Robby Stein, VP of Product for Google Search, about the recent success of Google Gemini, the state of Google Search in the age of AI, and the vision for AI Mode. Stein discusses Google's focus and urgency in delivering AI products, the expansionary nature of AI in search, and...

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First interview with Scale AI’s CEO: $14B Meta deal, what’s working in enterprise AI, and what frontier labs are building next | Jason Droege

09 Oct 2025
1h 24m
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In this interview, Lenny interviews Jason Droege, the new CEO of Scale AI, about the evolution of AI models and the role of data labeling and training. They discuss the shift towards expert data labeling, where professionals with advanced degrees contribute their expertise to improve AI models. Jason shares insights in...

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How to find hidden growth opportunities in your product | Albert Cheng (Duolingo, Grammarly, Chess.com)

05 Oct 2025
1h 25m
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In this interview podcast, Lenny interviews Albert Cheng, a growth expert, about strategies for identifying growth opportunities in consumer subscription products. Cheng shares his "explore and exploit" framework, emphasizing the importance of user retention and word-of-mouth growth. He discusses successful monetizatio...

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A 4-step framework for building delightful products | Nesrine Changuel (Spotify, Google, Skype)

28 Sep 2025
1h 24m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny interviews Nesrine Changuel, a product leader, about her pragmatic framework for building delightful and retentive product experiences. Nesrine defines delight as the ability to create products that serve both emotional and functional needs, emphasizing that it's a differentiat...

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Why AI evals are the hottest new skill for product builders | Hamel Husain & Shreya Shankar (creators of the #1 eval course)

25 Sep 2025
1h 46m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny interviews Hamel Husain and Shreya Shankar about evals, a systematic way to measure and improve AI applications. They discuss the importance of data analysis, error analysis, and the role of LLMs in the eval process. They also address common misconceptions about evals, such as ...

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From managing people to managing AI: The leadership skills everyone needs now | Julie Zhuo (Facebook VP, Sundial CEO, The Making of a Manager author)

21 Sep 2025
1h 36m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny interviews Julie Zhuo, former head of design for the Facebook app and author of "The Making of a Manager," about the evolving role of managers in the age of AI, the increasing importance of data analysis, and the blurring lines between traditional job roles. They discuss how ma...

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Why experts writing AI evals is creating the fastest-growing companies in history | Brendan Foody (CEO of Mercor)

18 Sep 2025
1h 6m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny interviews Brendan Foody, the CEO and co-founder of Mercor, the fastest-growing company to reach a $500 million revenue run rate. Brendan discusses the increasing importance of "evals" in AI, where companies measure and improve their models' capabilities using expert human feed...

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The ultimate guide to AEO: How to get ChatGPT to recommend your product | Ethan Smith (Graphite)

14 Sep 2025
1h 11m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Lenny interviews Ethan Smith, CEO of Graphite, about Answer Engine Optimization (AEO), the practice of optimizing content to appear in AI-generated answers from platforms like ChatGPT. Ethan explains that AEO is similar to traditional SEO but with key differences, such as the importa...

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$46B of hard truths from Ben Horowitz: Why founders fail and why you need to run toward fear (a16z co-founder)

11 Sep 2025
1h 37m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Ben Horowitz discusses leadership, decision-making, and company building with Lenny Rachitsky. Horowitz shares insights on overcoming fear, the importance of making difficult decisions, and the psychological challenges faced by CEOs. He emphasizes that success comes from a series of ...

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How AI is reshaping the product role | Oji and Ezinne Udezue

07 Sep 2025
1h 18m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, host Lenny interviews Oji and Ezinne Udezue, seasoned product leaders and authors of "Building Rocketships," about the evolving role of product management in the age of AI. They discuss how AI is changing the PM role, emphasizing the need for curiosity, humility, agency, and data lit...

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How we restructured Airtable’s entire org for AI | Howie Liu (co-founder and CEO)

31 Aug 2025
1h 40m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Howie Liu, co-founder and CEO of Airtable, discusses how companies can reinvent themselves in the age of AI. Howie shares his experiences at Airtable, including navigating a viral tweet that falsely claimed the company was failing, and emphasizes the importance of CEOs becoming indiv...

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How 80,000 companies build with AI: products as organisms, the death of org charts, and why agents will outnumber employees by 2026 | Asha Sharma (CVP of AI Platform at Microsoft)

28 Aug 2025
57m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Asha Sharma, Chief Vice President of Product for Microsoft's AI Platform, discusses the shift from product as artifact to product as organism, emphasizing the importance of data and continuous learning in AI product development. She highlights the rise of code-native interfaces and t...

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Inside the expert network training every frontier AI model | Garrett Lord (Handshake CEO)

24 Aug 2025
1h 9m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, host Lenny interviews Garrett Lord, the co-founder and CEO of Handshake, about their new AI-driven business that leverages their existing network of students and alumni to provide high-quality training data for AI labs. Garrett explains the shift from pre-training to post-training in...

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How Intercom rose from the ashes by betting everything on AI | Eoghan McCabe (founder and CEO)

21 Aug 2025
1h 23m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, Eoghan McCabe, the CEO of Intercom, discusses the company's successful transformation from a late-stage SaaS business to an AI-first, agent-based model. McCabe shares the challenges Intercom faced, including plateauing growth and internal resistance, and how the launch of ChatGPT pro...

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Why ChatGPT will be the next big growth channel (and how to capitalize on it) | Brian Balfour (Reforge)

17 Aug 2025
1h 29m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, host Lenny interviews Brian Balfour, founder and CEO of Reforge, about a new distribution channel emerging around AI, particularly ChatGPT. Balfour predicts that a new distribution platform will emerge, following a four-step cycle: market conditions being met, identifying a moat, ope...

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The one question that saves product careers | Matt LeMay

14 Aug 2025
1h 32m
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In this episode of Lenny's Podcast, host Lenny Rachitsky interviews Matt LeMay, product leader and author, about his new book, "Impact-First Product Teams." LeMay argues that product teams should focus on aligning their work with business-critical outcomes to avoid layoffs and drive company success. He introduces the c...

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