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Why Trump’s Tariffs Won’t Work

12 Mar 2025
1h 1m
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This Ezra Klein Show episode interviews Kimberly Clausing, an economist, about the economic impact of President Trump's tariffs. The interview begins with a basic explanation of tariffs and their effects, then delves into the costs to American families and the contradictions in Trump's justifications for them. Clausi...

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There Is a Liberal Answer to Elon Musk

09 Mar 2025
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This Ezra Klein podcast episode focuses on the Democratic Party's failure to effectively govern, leading to a loss of population and political power in traditionally blue states. Klein argues that excessive regulations and bureaucratic processes hinder construction and infrastructure development, driving up the cost o...

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This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

05 Mar 2025
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This episode of The Ezra Klein Show interviews Aaron Retica about President Donald Trump's first address to Congress in his second term. Klein and Retica analyze the speech's content, focusing on Trump's frequent, easily verifiable falsehoods and their function as loyalty tests within the Republican party. They discu...

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The Government Knows AGI is Coming

04 Mar 2025
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This Ezra Klein Show interview focuses on the imminent arrival of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and its implications. Former White House AI advisor Ben Buchanan warns of AGI's potential within the next few years, emphasizing the need for preparedness, particularly concerning national security and economic disr...

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The Dark Heart of Trump's Foreign Policy

01 Mar 2025
1h 20m
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This Ezra Klein Show episode interviews Fareed Zakaria to analyze Donald Trump's foreign policy doctrine. The discussion explores Trump's views on alliances, tariffs, and territorial expansion, contrasting them with traditional international relations theory. Zakaria argues that Trump's approach, while potentially yie...

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A Theory of Media That Explains 15 Years of Politics

25 Feb 2025
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This Ezra Klein Show interview focuses on Martin Gurri's evolving perspective on the "Revolt of the Public," initially described in his 2014 book. The conversation explores Gurri's shift from a critical stance on Trump in 2016 to voting for him in 2024, attributing this change to concerns about free speech and the per...

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A Democrat Who Is Thinking Differently

18 Feb 2025
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This podcast features an interview with Congressman Jake Auchincloss, focusing on his perspective on the Democratic Party's post-election strategy and the need for a substantive alternative to Trump's populism. The conversation covers Auchincloss's "Diet Coke" theory of Democratic populism, the importance of addressin...

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The Republican Party’s NPC Problem — and Ours

16 Feb 2025
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This podcast episode by Ezra Klein analyzes the current political climate in 2025, focusing on the Republican-controlled Congress's inaction in the face of President Trump's power grabs. Klein argues that the Republican party has become overly submissive to Trump, failing to act as a check on his executive power, mirr...

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What if Trump Just Ignores the Courts?

11 Feb 2025
1h 34m
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This Ezra Klein Show interview with Quinta Jurecic, a Lawfare senior editor, analyzes the early actions of the second Trump administration, focusing on whether they represent aggressive governance or a constitutional crisis. Jurecic discusses several examples, including the dismantling of USAID and the OMB spending fr...

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What Elon Musk Wants

07 Feb 2025
1h 7m
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This Ezra Klein Show interview with Kara Swisher analyzes Elon Musk's expanding influence within the US federal government under Trump's second term. The discussion details Musk's methods—identifying and exploiting information and financial choke points, disregarding conventional rules and norms, and leveraging legal ...

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The Breaking of the Constitutional Order

05 Feb 2025
1h 19m
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This Ezra Klein Show episode interviews Yuval Levin, discussing the first few weeks of Trump's second term. Klein and Levin analyze Trump's actions, including controversial executive orders and attempts to reshape the federal government, contrasting them with past administrations. Levin emphasizes the importance of C...

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Don't Believe Him

02 Feb 2025
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This news podcast analyzes the first two weeks of a second Trump administration, focusing on his strategy of overwhelming the media with multiple actions to prevent coherent opposition. The podcast uses Steve Bannon's "flood the zone" strategy as a framework, highlighting Trump's use of executive orders to bypass Cong...

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MAGA’s Big Tech Divide

28 Jan 2025
1h 34m
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This interview podcast explores the intellectual underpinnings of the MAGA movement. Host Ezra Klein interviews James Pogue, who discusses the evolution of MAGA from a loose coalition to a more structured political force, highlighting key figures like J.D. Vance and the influence of online spaces like Twitter. Pogue ...

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Let’s Get to the Marrow of What Trump Just Did

25 Jan 2025
1h 3m
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This panel discussion on The Ezra Klein Show focuses on analyzing the early executive orders of Donald Trump's second term. The hosts and guests, including immigration expert Dara Lind and political commentator Matt Yglesias, dissect Trump's approach to immigration enforcement, birthright citizenship, and economic po...

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So That's What 'Make America Great Again' Means

22 Jan 2025
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This interview podcast episode discusses the implications of Donald Trump's second presidential term. The hosts analyze Trump's inaugural address, focusing on his executive orders, particularly the controversial move to potentially end birthright citizenship. They also discuss the significant presence of tech CEOs at...

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Democrats are Losing the War for Attention. Badly.

17 Jan 2025
1h 13m
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This interview podcast explores the commodification of attention in the digital age, drawing parallels to the Industrial Revolution's commodification of labor. Host Ezra Klein interviews Chris Hayes, author of "The Sirens' Call," discussing the increasing competition for attention and how this impacts politics and med...

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Biden Promised to ‘Turn the Page’ on Trump. What Went Wrong?

14 Jan 2025
1h 8m
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This interview podcast features Ezra Klein interviewing Jake Sullivan, former National Security Advisor under President Biden. The conversation centers on the Biden administration's foreign policy approach, termed "Bidenism," which aimed to create a "foreign policy for the middle class" by connecting domestic and inte...

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Trump 2.0 and the Return of ‘Court Politics’

10 Jan 2025
1h 6m
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This episode of the Ezra Klein Show delves into how the Republican Party has transformed from a program-focused organization into a personalist one under Donald Trump's leadership. The discussion kicks off by defining personalist politics and contrasting it with traditional party dynamics, before exploring Trump's chan...

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Burned Out? Start Here.

07 Jan 2025
1h 4m
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In this episode of The Ezra Klein Show, author Oliver Burkeman delves into the topic of burnout and offers a fresh perspective on productivity and well-being. The conversation highlights Burkeman's idea of "productivity debt," which is the constant pressure to justify our existence through what we produce, and contrast...

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Best Of: Sabbath and the Art of Rest

27 Dec 2024
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In this episode of the Ezra Klein Show, the focus is on the idea of Sabbath rest and its significance, both historically and today. Host Ezra Klein interviews Judith Shulevitz, the author of The Sabbath World, who contends that the Sabbath is not just about taking a break from work; it's about fostering meaning and com...

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