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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Why tech billionaires want a ‘corporate dictatorship’

21 Jul 2025
1h 6m
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In this episode of Decoder, Jon Fortt interviews Gil Duran, author of "The Nerd Reich," about the increasing influence of tech billionaires on politics and society. Duran argues that figures like Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and Marc Andreessen are pushing anti-democratic ideas, aiming for a tech-dominated feudalism. They d...

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Perplexity CEO on why the browser is AI's killer app

17 Jul 2025
53m
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In this episode of Decoder, Alex Heath interviews Aravind Srinivas, the CEO of Perplexity, about Comet, Perplexity's new AI web browser. Aravind explains why Perplexity is betting on the browser as the best way to build AI agents, emphasizing the browser's ability to provide context and access to third-party apps secur...

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How decision making will change when AI answers are cheap and (too) easy

14 Jul 2025
1h 7m
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Jon Fortt interviews Cassie Kozyrkov, former chief decision scientist at Google, about the science of decision-making and how it intersects with AI. Kozyrkov discusses the importance of aligning decisions with personal values and goals, especially when using AI for advice, and the common mistakes people make in decisio...

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Inside the AI startup frenzy: ‘Everyone’s pivoting, then pivoting again’

10 Jul 2025
52m
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Alex Heath interviews Ellis Hamburger about the marketing of AI startups. Ellis shares his background, from his early interest in tech journalism and his time at The Verge, to his experiences at Snapchat and the Browser Company. He discusses the challenges AI startups face in differentiating themselves and communicatin...

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How SharkNinja took over the home

07 Jul 2025
1h 28m
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Why Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg went to war over WordPress

30 Jun 2025
1h 9m
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Hinge CEO Justin McLeod says dating AI chatbots is 'playing with fire'

23 Jun 2025
1h 7m
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In this episode of Decoder, Nilay Patel interviews Justin McLeod, the founder and CEO of Hinge, about the dating app's evolution, business model, and future direction. McLeod discusses Hinge's focus on fostering genuine connections and its unique position within the Match Group portfolio, as well as the company's shift...

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Monopoly isn’t a game (with Lina Khan)

12 Jun 2025
56m
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Taskrabbit CEO Ania Smith isn’t afraid of AI robots replacing human labor

09 Jun 2025
1h 11m
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Why Runway CEO Cris Valenzuela thinks AI filmmaking is the future

05 Jun 2025
56m
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Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky wants to build the everything app

02 Jun 2025
1h 13m
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Airbnb is transforming from a vacation rental marketplace into a comprehensive platform for services and experiences, aiming to monetize users' time rather than just their property. By rebuilding the technology stack and app interface, the company is integrating offerings like private chefs and curated activities, posi...

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How private equity kills companies and communities

29 May 2025
49m
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Google CEO Sundar Pichai on the next phase of AI

27 May 2025
46m
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In this episode of Decoder, Nilay Patel interviews Sundar Pichai, the CEO of Google and Alphabet, following the Google I.O. developer conference. They discuss Google's new AI products, the evolving landscape of search with the introduction of AI mode, and its potential impact on the web and content creators. Pichai add...

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Why Uber's CEO is okay with reinventing the bus

22 May 2025
1h 1m
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In this episode of Decoder, Nilay Patel interviews Dara Khosrowshahi, the CEO of Uber, about the company's current strategies and future vision. They discuss Uber's evolution from a simple ride-hailing app to a comprehensive "everyday app," exploring new features like Route Share and commuter subscriptions designed to ...

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Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on how AI can save the web, not destroy it

19 May 2025
1h 14m
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In this episode of Decoder, Nilay Patel interviews Kevin Scott, Microsoft's CTO, about the future of search and the agentic web. They discuss Microsoft's new open-source tool, NL search, designed to integrate AI-powered natural language search into websites, and the Model Context Protocol (MCP) that enables AI agents t...

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Workday's new product head hopes he can make you like Workday

15 May 2025
1h 12m
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Did Apple get too big for its own good?

12 May 2025
1h 23m
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In this episode of Decoder, Nilay Patel interviews John Gruber about the future of Apple and the App Store. They discuss the Epic vs. Apple legal battle, Apple's shift towards digital services, and the potential impact on the company's revenue. Gruber shares his insights on Apple's culture, its relationship with develo...

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Reuters is ready to stand up for the press — and embrace AI

08 May 2025
1h 4m
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This episode explores the challenges and opportunities facing Reuters, a long-standing news organization, in the rapidly evolving digital media landscape. Against the backdrop of declining newspaper readership and the rise of social platforms, Reuters is adapting its distribution model to reach new audiences, including...

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NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI and the economy

05 May 2025
1h 10m
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What Trump has broken in 100 days

01 May 2025
52m
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