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Kevin Follonier · Investment

When Shift Happens Podcast

I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto. My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3. Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos. Thank you for watching.

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E171: Coinsilium CEO: How AI Agents Will Reshape Crypto (And Replace Millions Of Jobs)

14 May 2026
54m
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Investment strategies within the digital asset sector are shifting from passive Bitcoin treasury models toward proactive, diversified operations. As the industry matures, AI agents are emerging as a fundamental force, poised to transform the "agentic economy" by automating complex tasks, removing human bias from capita...

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E170: Ethereum Co-Founder: How Big Tech Will Use AI To Control You (And How Crypto Stops It)

07 May 2026
1h 13m
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E169: Bitwise Founder: Why Every Major Bank Is Racing Into Crypto Right Now

30 Apr 2026
58m
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Institutional adoption of crypto is accelerating rapidly, with major financial firms shifting from cautious observation to aggressive integration within the next 12 months. Hunter Horsley, CEO of Bitwise Asset Management, characterizes this as the most bullish moment in the industry's history, driven by the realization...

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ByBit Founder: I Survived the Biggest Crypto Hack and Still Had My Best Year | E168

23 Apr 2026
1h 7m
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Bybit aims to evolve into a unified financial platform, merging traditional banking, brokerage, and crypto exchange services into a single, accessible ecosystem. CEO Ben Zhou emphasizes the company's resilience following a $1.5 billion security breach, noting that profits fully recovered the losses within eight months ...

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E167: Bitwise Advisor: Why Buying a House Is the Worst Investment You Can Make

16 Apr 2026
1h 18m
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E166: Bitget CEO From Divorced Single Mom to Running a $20B/Day Crypto Exchange

09 Apr 2026
1h 25m
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Gracy Chen, CEO of the global crypto exchange Bitget, explores the challenges of leadership, the necessity of personal sacrifice, and the strategic evolution of the cryptocurrency industry. Managing a 2,200-person remote workforce requires a rigorous OKR-based performance system and a focus on long-term growth rather t...

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E165: Backpack CEO: How I Survived Crypto's Biggest Collapse, Then Built a $420B Exchange

02 Apr 2026
1h 23m
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The crypto industry is undergoing a fundamental shift toward mature, high-performance financial infrastructure, exemplified by the resilience of the Solana network. Armani Ferrante, CEO of Backpack, details his experience navigating the FTX collapse, where he lost nearly all of his company's balance sheet, yet chose to...

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E164: GSR CEO: The New Era of Crypto Is About to Begin

26 Mar 2026
1h 13m
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Xin Song, Group CEO of GSR Markets, discusses the current state and future potential of tokenization, highlighting the need to cultivate demand to match the existing supply of tokenized assets. Xin emphasizes the necessity for programmable assets to support the growth of AI agents and the importance of diversifying fou...

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E163: Jupiter President: How Crypto Will Replace Your Bank (And Why Wall Street Knows It)

19 Mar 2026
1h 19m
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The conversation centers on the evolution of on-chain finance and Jupiter's role in shaping its future. Xiao-Xiao, President of Jupiter, discusses the platform's mission to bridge the gap between traditional finance and on-chain finance through user-friendly applications and global accessibility. A key focus is Jupiter...

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E162: CoinGecko CEO: The Truth About Getting Rich in Crypto (you won't like it)

12 Mar 2026
1h 41m
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Bobby Ong, co-founder and CEO of CoinGecko, discusses CoinGecko's origin, the values that have shaped its growth, and the challenges of building a sustainable business in the volatile crypto industry. Ong emphasizes the importance of integrity and playing the long-term game, recounting an instance where CoinGecko uncov...

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E161: Sui Founder Explains Why Ethereum & Solana Will Be Left Behind

05 Mar 2026
49m
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The podcast explores the future of blockchain technology with Evan Cheng, co-founder and CEO of Mysten Labs, focusing on the SUI blockchain and its unique object-based model. Cheng argues that current account-based blockchains are insufficient for representing real-world assets, which evolve through interactions and re...

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E160: Paradex CEO: A Crypto Founder Exposes How Token Launches Really Work

26 Feb 2026
1h 9m
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The conversation centers on Paradex's mission to build a wealth creation engine accessible to everyone, emphasizing the importance of permissionless access and self-sovereign money. Anand Gomes highlights Paradex's unique privacy features, including encrypted positions on Ethereum and off-chain orders, to prevent liqui...

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E159: Jeff Yan, Hyperliquid CEO: Why Crypto Must Fix Finance Before AI Takes Over

19 Feb 2026
1h 29m
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The podcast explores Hyperliquid's vision for the future of decentralized finance with Jeff Yan, the founder and CEO of Hyperliquid Labs. Yan emphasizes Hyperliquid's commitment to building a neutral platform, drawing parallels to the internet and AWS, and highlights the importance of community-driven development. He a...

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E158: Avichal Garg, Electrical Capital CoFounder: Why Bitcoin Hitting $10 Million Is Less Crazy Than You Think

12 Feb 2026
1h 11m
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The podcast explores the traits and backgrounds of successful entrepreneurs and investors, particularly within the crypto and tech spaces. Avichal Garg, co-founder of Electric Capital, shares his insights on identifying individuals with the "X factor"—authenticity, a strong belief system, and the agency to act on it. H...

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E157:Anthony Pompliano: This is what happens when you go all-in on Bitcoin (you get rich?)

05 Feb 2026
33m
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Anthony Pompliano discusses his investment strategies, risk management, and life priorities. He emphasizes the importance of relentless persistence in both business and personal life, advocating for concentrated investment strategies, particularly in Bitcoin, where he once held 95% of his net worth. Pompliano different...

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E156: Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise: How To Get Rich in Crypto (without Gambling)

29 Jan 2026
57m
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The discussion centers on investment strategies in cryptocurrency, particularly Bitcoin and Solana, considering future market trends and the potential impact of debasement. Matt Hougan from Bitwise, outlines a "two ways to win" framework, emphasizing the growth of the global store of value market and Bitcoin's increasi...

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E155: SUI Network Founder: We Built What Ethereum and Solana Can't

22 Jan 2026
1h 0m
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Kostas Chalkias, co-founder and chief cryptographer at Mysten Labs, explains cryptography as writing in secrecy, ensuring secure communication, and discusses its evolution, including digital signatures and privacy-enhancing technologies. He addresses concerns about quantum computing, noting that while it's not an immed...

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E154: Bitcoin Suisse CEO: How to Build Generational Wealth in the Next 5 Years

15 Jan 2026
1h 28m
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The podcast explores the journey and insights of Andrej Majcen, co-founder and Group CEO of Bitcoin Suisse, focusing on the evolution of cryptocurrency and wealth preservation. Majcen reflects on Bitcoin Suisse's origins, starting in 2013, and its growth into a leading crypto financial institution, emphasizing the impo...

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E153: Kast Founder: Why Crypto Banking Will Be Bigger Than You Think

08 Jan 2026
1h 10m
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Kast founder Rags Pathy discusses his vision for a global crypto neobank, emphasizing equality of opportunity regardless of geographic location. Pathy details his journey from Sri Lanka to Australia, highlighting the contrast between wealth and opportunity. He stresses the importance of understanding compound math for ...

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E152: Raoul Pal: How to Make it in Crypto in 2026 (without getting lucky)

18 Dec 2025
1h 54m
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In this episode of When Shift Happens, the host interviews Raoul Pal about the crypto market, investment strategies, and the future of digital assets. They discuss the challenges of online hate, the role of state actors in spreading discontent, and the importance of digital identity. Pal shares his insights on liquidit...

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