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Google just announced Gemini 4 Carbon, and I wanted to see how Google's own product leaders use Gemini 4 day to day. Jaclyn is a product director at Google Labs. We talked about how Gemini 4 changed the PM job, how Labs decides what's worth building, and how she uses AI to make podcasts and games with her kids.

Jaclyn and I talked about:

(00:00) How Gemini 4 changed the PM job

(02:11) How Google Labs picks what to build

(09:16) The rule that keeps AI slop out of docs

(10:45) How Labs ideas end up in the Gemini app

(12:53) Keep the lessons, not the prototype

(17:43) Why your code is no longer a moat

(24:00) Raising kids to create with AI

(26:30) A Gemini 4 petting zoo game for her kids

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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/gemini-4-changed-how-google-builds-products-jaclyn-konzelmann

Where to find Jaclyn:

X: https://x.com/jacalulu

Substack: https://substack.com/@jacalulu

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Gemini 4 Changed How Google Builds Products | Jaclyn Konzelmann

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Gemini 4 Changed How Google Builds Products | Jaclyn Konzelmann