A growing portion of the electorate appears to recognize the mayhem President Donald Trump has instigated since returning to the Oval Office. That segment includes some of the people who put him back into office, including Rich Baris, who goes by the People’s Pundit on social media. Baris runs Big Data Poll, and appears regularly on “The Charlie Kirk Show” and other right-wing outlets. But he concurs with nonpartisan pollsters that MAGA is fracturing, and he talks with David Remnick about how the President lost the trust of his base; the contempt MAGA voters have for the old Republican Party; and who might take the reins after Trump.

Further reading:

“The Week Republicans Finally Panicked About Trump,” by Susan B. Glasser
“A Never Trumper and a Democrat on Beating MAGA for Good,” by Isaac Arnsdorf
“How the Internet Fringe Infiltrated Republican Politics,” by Antonia Hitchens
“Tucker Carlson’s Nationalist Crusade,” by Jason Zengerle
“Does MAGA Have Ideas?,” by Joshua Rothman

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Has MAGA Lost Faith in Donald Trump?

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Has MAGA Lost Faith in Donald Trump?