Today's guest is Francisco Trindade, VP of Engineering, founder of two companies, and author of Leading Effective Software Teams.

In this chat you will learn how to think about your team as a system, how to optimize flow in the developer process, and why you should absolutely hire junior engineers.

(00:00) Code reviews were always the bottleneck

(01:09) Introducing Francisco Trindade

(01:46) The team that wasn't broken

(05:13) Sponsor break

(07:00) Fix the system, not the people

(18:49) Stop optimizing for busy

(22:40) What great teams actually measure

(32:13) Autonomy is not a to-do list

(46:43) The kids are all right

(52:05) The trouble with all-senior teams

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Show notes:

• Francisco's book: https://franciscotrindade.me/leading-effective-software-teams-book

• Francisco's Website: https://franciscotrindade.me

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Your Team is a System ⚙️ — with Francisco Trindade

Refactoring Podcast

Your Team is a System ⚙️ — with Francisco Trindade