Charlie and Rony open with Charlie's hands-on take on Snap's $2,200 Specs launch and Rony's theory on how big tech companies let smaller players pioneer risky new hardware first. From there, the conversation turns to a tense week in AI safety, sparked by Dario Amodei's call for frontier labs to slow down, and a sharp debate over whether the industry's talk of needing regulation is really about something else entirely. They close out the news with a look at how China is approaching AI development differently than the West, plus a genuinely stunning breakthrough in brain-computer interfaces.

Jan Goetgeluk, founder and CEO of Virtuix, joins to talk about the company's path from a Shark Tank rejection to a recent Nasdaq listing (VTIX). Jan walks through Virtuix's VR treadmill business, the surprising overlap between gaming and fitness that's driving consumer sales, and why the company is leaning harder into defense contracts and location-based entertainment than the crowded consumer VR space. The conversation closes with what it's actually like running a public company day to day, and Jan's outlook for the next two years, including a possible move into autism therapy.

Key Moments:

[01:35] Charlie's hands-on impressions from the Snap Specs launch

[04:35] Rony's theory: why big tech lets pioneers take the risk first

[06:35] Dario Amodei's essay and the case for pacing frontier AI

[08:35] Is AI safety talk really about dodging product liability?

[12:35] China's practical approach to AI vs. the race for AGI

[15:35] A brain-computer interface breakthrough restores speech

[20:35] Jan Goetgeluk joins — Virtuix's path to Nasdaq

[30:35] The surprising fitness angle driving VR treadmill sales

[32:35] Virtuix's pivot toward defense contracts

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Peloton for Gamers: Virtuix Goes Public ft. Jan Goetgeluk, CEO of Virtuix

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Peloton for Gamers: Virtuix Goes Public ft. Jan Goetgeluk, CEO of Virtuix