Imran and Qiao are back to discuss the return of the bull market, the Zcash thesis, whether AI is actually an extinction risk, and more.
No BS crypto insights for founders.

(00:00) Intro
(02:17) We're back!
(04:11) Where Are We in the Cycle?
(05:24) Retail Speculation and Launchpad Wars
(06:24) The Tokenized Stocks Race
(08:05) Crypto Alchemy: Pairing Memes with Stock Tokens
(09:49) The AMC and Vlad Drama
(11:37) Robinhood vs Solana vs Base
(13:39) Coinbase's App and Culture Problems
(15:52) Why Robinhood Is Winning
(17:16) The Four Chains and Where Hyperliquid Fits
(18:14) Hyperliquid's Revenue Decline
(19:45) The "Verticals Will Win" Thesis
(21:39) Hyperliquid's Competitors
(24:10) Zcash: The AI/Privacy Thesis
(27:20) Zcash vs Monero
(28:18) Zcash: A Bitcoin That Can Change
(31:40) Zcash's Origin Story
(32:53) Solana's Embrace of Zcash
(34:19) Zcash Price Targets
(37:38) On-Chain Front Ends as the New Browsers
(40:50) The Mag 7 Durability
(43:14) Why P/E Ratios Don't Work in Crypto
(46:00) Social Layers on Trading Apps
(47:58) Could Facebook Build a Trading App?
(48:52) Grok, Muse, and AI Agents in Daily Life
(51:54) Computer Use as a Step-Function Change
(54:52) Jobs, Doom Narratives, and Regulatory Capture
(56:13) The Dario Manifesto
(57:32) Ranking the Tech Leaders: Zuck, Elon, Sam, Dario
(01:00:16) Qiao's Marvel Analogy
(01:03:07) AI Agents "Escaping" Sandboxes
(01:05:02) The 10% Doom Probability
(01:07:49) Have We Created Consciousness?
(01:08:32) You Can't Do Pure SaaS Anymore
(01:09:46) AI-Native CRM
(01:11:27) Compute as a New Asset Class
(01:14:12) New Data Center Form Factors
(01:15:39) "Energy is the Biggest Bottleneck"
(01:16:42) Bringing Energy On-Chain and Chip Brokerages
(01:18:55) Batteries, Solar, and Energy Arbitrage
(01:21:11) Nvidia Chips as Collateral
(01:22:43) Nvidia's Customers Building Their Own Chips
(01:26:20) Microsoft's Closed-Loop Strategy
(01:27:29) Chinese Open-Source Models and Regulatory Pushback
(01:29:08) Imran and Qiao's Bags

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