In this episode of Engineering Enablement, Robert Lucero, Chief Architect at Okta, joins host Brian Houck to discuss how agentic AI is changing identity and access management. They explore how organizations should define agent identities, why authentication and authorization remain foundational, and how sandboxing, fine-grained permissions, and just-in-time access can enable agents to operate autonomously without creating unacceptable risk.

Robert shares what Okta has learned from driving AI adoption among security-minded engineers, what makes a repository ready for AI agents, and why strong testing, CI, and review processes matter even more as AI generates more code. They also discuss AI’s role in software validation, the need for human judgment, and whether AI will ultimately give the advantage to security teams or attackers.