This week, Scott celebrated the fifth anniversary of Rational Security 2.0 with the return of co-hosts emeriti Shane Harris, Quinta Jurecic, and Benjamin Wittes. In varying degrees of witheringness, the four sat in brutal judgment of this year’s Hot Take Takedown pitches:

Public Service Fellow Julia Curlee gives her informed analysis of whether we should get rid of the President’s Daily Brief.
Senior Editor Mike Feinberg has strong feelings about who is the bad guy in the Bourne movies.
Senior Editor Molly Roberts cooks up a theory on whether we should move concerns about Trump’s plans for Greenland up from the back burner.

Which takes are too cold and bland, which are too hot and spicy, and which are just right? Listen in and decide for yourself!

Meanwhile in object lessons, Shane introduces us to GrandpaSpy on Instagram, bringing out the “wholesome, family fun” side of espionage. Quinta has a pleasant encounter with a “Cool Machine.” Scott remembered Rational Security 2.0’s anniversary before he remembered his own wedding anniversary but celebrates them both. And Ben revisits an old, unfinished pandemic project, much to Scott’s chagrin.

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Rational Security: The “Fifth Anniversary Hot Take Takedown” Edition

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Rational Security: The “Fifth Anniversary Hot Take Takedown” Edition