Should workforce transformation belong to HR? Bettina Dietsche, Group Chief People and Culture Officer at Allianz, doesn't think so.

Bettina leads the people agenda for around 156,000 employees at Allianz. She came to HR after 25 years in IT and digital transformation, picking up the people function while serving as COO of Allianz Commercial during a company turnaround. That background shapes her view that HR's job is to challenge and push transformation onto the business agenda - not to own it.

In this episode, David and Bettina discuss:

Why she believes HR should challenge and nudge workforce transformation, while ownership sits with the business
How 25 years leading IT and digital transformation, including a COO turnaround, shaped her approach to the CPO role
Why she runs regular sessions with more than 60 CEOs across Allianz, and what that partnership actually looks like in practice
Her test for a healthy culture - what people do when no one's watching - and why she calls culture "the hardest currency"
How Allianz builds daily AI habits into leadership, from "AI gem sessions" to asking each morning what AI can help with first
Why she sees AI creating as many new early-career roles as it displaces, and how Allianz is reshaping graduate hiring around that

This episode is sponsored by Valence.

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before.

As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.

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