The conversation about AI often focuses on software, automation, and the race between attackers and defenders in code. However, some of the most consequential risks lie further afield, in domains where a mistake is measured in human lives. Advanced models can now offer step-by-step guidance toward chemical and biological weapons, and militaries are already folding AI into targeting and battlefield assessments. These are no longer speculative fears confined to the AI doomer crowd. They are documented in red team disclosures, government legislation, and events unfolding on real battlefields.

Gordon M. Goldstein is an adjunct senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, where he focuses on the convergence of technology and US foreign policy. He previously spent nearly a decade as a managing director at Silver Lake, and he is the author of Lessons In Disaster: McGeorge Bundy and the Path to War in Vietnam, which is a study of national security strategy and White House decision-making. In this episode, Gordon joins Kevin Ball to discuss the credibility of AI-enabled chemical and biological weapon threats, the ad hoc safeguards meant to contain them, and the rise of autonomous warfare and its implications for human control and nuclear deterrence. Gordon speaks on his own behalf, not on behalf of the Council on Foreign Relations.

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